In this edition of The Random Show, Tim Ferriss and Kevin Rose reunite over tequila to talk Zen retreats, learning to rock climb at (almost) 50, mortality and grief, why you should stop saying “one day,” AI predictions, and much more.
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Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | Digg | Diggnation Podcast | Instagram | X | Threads | Bluesky
Connect with Tim Ferriss:
Website | 5-Bullet Friday | Saisei Foundation | Instagram | X
Relevant Tim Ferriss Show Episodes
Assessing Risk and Living Without a Rope – Lessons from Alex Honnold| The Tim Ferriss Show #160Dr. Adam Gazzaley, UCSF — Brain Optimization and the Future of Psychedelic Medicine| The Tim Ferriss Show #507Dr. Tommy Wood — How to Future-Proof Your Brain from Dementia| The Tim Ferriss Show #851Elan Lee, Co-Creator of Exploding Kittens — How to Raise Millions on Kickstarter, Deconstructing Mega-Successes, Secrets of Game Design, The Power of Positive Constraints, The Delights of Craftsmanship, and The Art of Turning Fans into Superfans| The Tim Ferriss Show #653Henry Shukman — Zen, Tools for Awakening, Ayahuasca vs. Meditation, Intro to Koans, and Using Wounds as the Doorway| The Tim Ferriss Show #531Matt Mullenweg on Polyphasic Sleep, Tequila, and Building Billion-Dollar Companies| The Tim Ferriss Show #61Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours| The Tim Ferriss Show #713The Maverick of Brain Optimization| The Tim Ferriss Show #83Michael Pollan — Exploring The New Science of Psychedelics| The Tim Ferriss Show #313Michael Pollan — This Is Your Mind on Plants| The Tim Ferriss Show #520My Two-Year Secret Project, COYOTE — The Strategies and Tactics for Building a Bestseller from Nothing with Elan Lee of Exploding Kittens| The Tim Ferriss Show #821The Random Show, Couch Edition! — Supplements, Hummingbirds, Cock Rings, Optimizing Mitochondria, Breathing and Balance Training, Cool Grip-Strength Tools, and More| The Tim Ferriss Show #858The Random Show, Rare Drinking Edition — Affordable Luxuries, Brain Stimulation, Sampling the Future (and Some Previews), Recharging with Creative Experiments, Tokenizing Humans with a Bonding Curve, Poetry for People Who Hate Poetry, and Much More| The Tim Ferriss Show #690Sam Harris, Ph.D. — How to Master Your Mind| The Tim Ferriss Show #342Tim Ferriss and Matt Mullenweg in Antarctica — Exploring Personal Fears, Bucket Lists, Facing Grief, Crafting Life Missions, and Tim’s Best Penguin Impressions| The Tim Ferriss Show #578Zen Master Henry Shukman — 20 Minutes of Calm, Plus the Strange and Powerful World of Koans| The Tim Ferriss Show #560
Books & Recommended Reading
10,000 Years of Dog Domestication| CBC Radio’s Ideas360 Feedback Questions: Samples for Managers [With Downloadable Templates]| Indeedby Joe Abercrombie | AmazonThe Blade Itself (The First Law Trilogy, Book One)by Michael Pollan | AmazonThe Botany of Desire: A Plant’s-Eye View of the WorldFANG Stocks Explained| InvestopediaHas AI Already Killed Nonfiction?by Tim Ferriss | Tim’s BlogThe Tail Endby Tim Urban | Wait But WhyInternet?Enabled Orgasms: How Teledildonics Are Changing the Way We Have Sex| The Conversation
Films & TV
| Prime VideoFree Solo| Prime VideoRain Man| Prime VideoToy Story| Prime VideoWilly Wonka & The Chocolate Factory
People
Joe AbercrombieEmil AbrahamssonJoshua BaerSergey BrinWarren BuffettMichael EckertMolly FerrissAdam GazzaleySam HarrisAlex HonnoldAndrew HubermanSteve JobsJohn LasseterElan LeeOm MalikBill MarisTerence McKennaMatt MullenwegElon MuskMichael PollanDavid PragerJoe RoganDarya RoseToaster RoseHenry ShukmanLisa SuTim UrbanChris WilliamsonTommy WoodYamada Ryoun Roshi
Meditation & Introspection
Four Myths About Zen Buddhism’s Mu Koanby Steven Heine | OUPblogThe Live Your Values Deck| AmazonWaking Up(Sam Harris’ Mindfulness Meditation App)The Way(Henry Shukman’s Guided Meditation App)The Last Timeby Sam Harris | Waking UpThe Whole Earth is Medicineby Harry Shukman | Instagram
Supplements, Food, Drinks, & Performance
Bulleit Rye WhiskeydeltaG KetonesLALO TequilaMaui Nui VenisonNeutonic Nootropic ToothpicksPioneer Pastures A2 Protein(Chocolate/Vanilla| Amazon)
Training
Abrahangs Protocol(10s on / 50s off, 10 min, 2×/day)Ape Index Calculator| 99BouldersLearn Chess the Duolingo Way| DuolingoM3i Studio Indoor Bike| KeiserNorwegian 4×4 High-Intensity Interval Training| OnThe Nug| Frictitious Climbing
Science & Research
A Phase 3 Trial of MM120 for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (Voyage)| UCSF NeuroscapeDefinium Therapeutics(formerly MindMed)Research| Dog Aging ProjectSingle Treatment With MM120 (Lysergide) in Generalized Anxiety Disorder| JAMA
Tech & AI
AI Halo| AMD RyzenChatGPT| OpenAIClaude / Claude Code| AnthropicDescriptFerrite Recording Studio App| Wooji JuiceGemini| GoogleGoogle XNVIDIAPixar Animation StudiosSennheiser XS Lav USB-C Pro Audio Condenser Microphone| AmazonShokz OpenMeet UC Bone-Conduction Headset| AmazonSimCity Games| EASpaceXTeslaUbiquiti UniFi G5 Ultra Network Camera| AmazonWaymoWispr Flow(Voice-to-Text)
Timestamps
- [00:00:00] Start.
- [00:00:24] A tequila toast, and getting “taxed” by alcohol as you age.
- [00:02:18] Toaster at 15: a late-night health scare.
- [00:06:01] Losing Om Malik, and finding out on retreat.
- [00:08:03] Matt Mullenweg, Antarctica, and gratitude.
- [00:09:34] Coming to terms with our limited time on Earth.
- [00:14:37] Five days of silence and the koan “Mu.”
- [00:15:20] Kevin’s micro-insight and a plug for The Way.
- [00:27:25] Rock climbing after 40, and a Yosemite goal.
- [00:29:18] Michael Eckert and finger-strength training.
- [00:30:40] The Nug, Abrahangs, and a travel training kit.
- [00:32:57]
*Free Solo*and climbing with a fear of heights. - [00:37:53]
The Blade Itself, and a friend lost in a plane crash. - [00:39:19] A2 protein and Pioneer Pastures.
- [00:40:34] Maui Nui venison and the nitrate question.
- [00:43:48] deltaG ketones: what they are and the catch.
- [00:45:42] Ketones, dementia, and verbal fluidity.
- [00:46:29] Pre-grieving a parent’s decline.
- [00:48:33] Training not to die: the one bike I can stand and the Norwegian 4×4.
- [00:51:10] Something beats nothing: saunas, treadmills, and Duolingo chess.
- [00:53:04] The MM120 anxiety study — and a small-world surprise.
- [00:56:17] Psilocybin, LSD, and dementia case reports.
- [01:01:28] Neutonic toothpicks and Kevin’s AI-powered home.
- [01:06:12] Spooky AI personalization and investment autopsies.
- [01:17:38] Values cards, contractual bonds, and dark information.
- [01:23:25] 360 reviews and child-rearing.
- [01:24:54] Wispr Flow, Shokz, and my recording rig.
- [01:29:32] The “big three” and where AI goes next.
- [01:44:40] Let your winners run; buy the company, not the product.
- [01:51:08] Digg’s relaunch, 5-Bullet Friday, and parting thoughts.
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