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LLMs .what do you smoke beforehand?

A Hacker News user, in a post titled 'LLMs .what do you smoke beforehand?', claims that large language models have been intentionally or accidentally degraded since around October 2024, citing Anthropic's Claude models as the worst, and argues that LLMs are now worse than no LLM for novel work, producing only 'trash' output. The user asserts that no one is building anything they couldn't have done before and that the models are 'literally a prompt to dumpster pipeline.'

read1 min views1 publishedAug 18, 2026

I know this is going to sound negative, and probably a bit generalist but....seriously, what exactly is the LLM helping you with that is not just purely "time saving" - ie. Actual, novel work.

I personally feel like while I cannot prove it, nor want to frankly, that LLMs have been neutered intentionally since around October of last year. 4.5-4.6 Opus....

Every single company has degraded their models eirher intentionally or accidentally(probably worse) and they cannot admit it and will gaslight you if you even try to acknowledge it....but for my own experiments, LLMs are actually worse than no-LLM....

I dont see anyone building anything they couldnt have done before hand....and I am seeing stuff that didnt need to be made...much more frequently....to the degree that I cannot remember the last good idea I have seen even on here (whereas there were cool ideas every month posted here)...

I also cannot get even mediocre output anymore...Its literally just trash - Literally a prompt to dumpster pipeline....

Clause is the worst. Hands down. They have regressed on every single model since 4.5....to rhe degree that 4.5 when it was released was hands down better than anythingg on the market today...for a fraction of the price....and was like 10-100x faster...

So....what do I need to smoke, what drug makes me see the LLMs work? I need to get faded...because at this point....Its insulting to use them....

Claude will literally bend over backwards to do everything in its power to avoid doing what was asked....and will take 50minutes of thinking....for a single html website....that looks like fucking dogwater and which I could have coded up by hand using off the shelf styling in probably 90 minutes....

so...yeah...what drugs? How much? How often? Side effects?

Comments URL: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49353513](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49353513)

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