He is from the star musical group Mumford & Sons, but is also an excellent podcaster. Here is the episode, recorded before the Fable ban was lifted:
Of course I do sneak in some music analogies, including a mention of Dock Boggs.
source & further reading
marginalrevolution.com — original article
The least bad way to regulate AI?
Emergent Ventures winners, 58th cohort
AI and constitutions (from my email)