Why we’re at the beginning of the AI hardware boom | Caitlin Kalinowski (ex–OpenAI, Meta, Apple)

Caitlin Kalinowski, a veteran hardware engineer who led teams at OpenAI, Meta, and Apple, argues the AI industry is entering a hardware boom driven by robotics and memory constraints. She warns startups to pre-buy memory now to avoid an impending price shock, and says humanoid robots remain prototypes with mass deployment gated by cost and manufacturing challenges. Kalinowski, who built hardware for the MacBook, Quest, and Orion AR glasses, left OpenAI to focus on the next frontier of physical AI.

Caitlin Kalinowski was most recently at OpenAI helping build their robotics and hardware teams from scratch. Prior to that, she was head of AR glasses and VR hardware at Meta, where she led the teams building every generation of the Quest, Rift, and Orion, and was Meta’s first consumer electronics hire. Before this, she was technical lead on MacBook Air and Mac Pro at Apple, and helped engineer the original unibody MacBook Pro. She’s designed and engineered some of the hardest and most beloved consumer hardware products in history and is now focused on the next frontier: robotics. Listen on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts In our in-depth conversation, we discuss: VR—what happened? The coming memory price shock and why she’s telling startups to pre-buy now How the technologies built for VR became the foundation of modern warfare Why humanoid robots are still just prototypes, and what’s actually gating mass deployment Lessons from Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, and Sam Altman Why she left OpenAI Brought to you by: WorkOS —Make your app enterprise-ready, with SSO, SCIM, RBAC, and more Vanta —Automate compliance, manage risk, and accelerate trust with AI Where to find Caitlin Kalinowski: • X: https://x.com/kalinowski007 https://x.com/kalinowski007 • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckalinowski https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckalinowski • Website: https://www.caitlinkalinowski.com https://www.caitlinkalinowski.com Referenced: • MacBook: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac • Brett Degner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-degner-a723594 https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-degner-a723594 • Apple Vision Pro: 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