# Why is there almost no manipulation data for agriculture?

> Source: <https://discuss.huggingface.co/t/why-is-there-almost-no-manipulation-data-for-agriculture/178257#post_2>
> Published: 2026-07-28 10:29:29+00:00

Hmm… From what I could find, it seems that the relevant work is scattered across several fields and is therefore hard to discover:

My read is that this is **not simply an absence of interest**. People are collecting agricultural manipulation demonstrations and testing learned policies, but the public work is fragmented into small, crop-specific, hardware-specific projects rather than forming an agricultural equivalent of DROID or Open X-Embodiment.

The second part of your question is also slightly different from “no current format can represent this.” [LeRobotDataset v3](https://huggingface.co/docs/lerobot/en/lerobot-dataset-v3) can already store synchronized video, state, action, timestamps and custom features. The missing piece appears to be a broadly used convention that links:

I would therefore use LeRobot as the **trajectory layer**, rather than trying to force the entire farm-to-packhouse history into one episode table.

A reasonable default design would be:

```
immutable raw recording
        ↓
LeRobot trajectory dataset
        │
        └── harvest_event_id / target_id
                    ↓
linked event and outcome table
        ├── harvest / container / packing events
        ├── inspection time
        ├── measured quality
        ├── inspection method and scale
        ├── missing-data reason
        └── causal attribution, if any, kept separate
```

Before collecting at scale, I think the highest-value route would be to take a **one-crop, one-task pilot schema** to the [LeRobot Discord](https://discord.com/invite/q8Dzzpym3f). That is probably the best place to check action representation, custom features, converter design and whether the resulting dataset will work with current policies.

The [Hugging Science community](https://huggingface.co/hugging-science) also seems relevant, but for a different reason: it explicitly focuses on cross-disciplinary collaboration, data fragmentation, standardized formats and shared evaluation. That may be a better place to find plant science, postharvest, data-curation or benchmark collaborators.

The most important design question to settle first is probably:

What identity can remain attached to the harvest event through the packhouse?

| What remains traceable? | What the later label can safely mean |
|---|---|
| Individual fruit | The later observation can be joined directly to one harvest event |
| Tray, bin or small lot | The later result should remain an aggregate outcome, not be assigned to one grasp |
| Only a large mixed lot | Useful for operational statistics, but weak supervision for individual trajectories |
| No persistent linkage | Start with immediate outcomes, or modify the tagging workflow before collecting delayed labels |

Everything else—including whether weather belongs per-frame or per-episode—depends somewhat on that identity boundary.

Closest examples I could findIf I were starting from your position, my default path would be:

The combination of farm and packhouse access is particularly valuable because it could capture a linkage that most current robot datasets cannot: not merely whether the robot completed the motion, but what happened to the biological product afterward.

Even a modest dataset that preserves that linkage cleanly could be more reusable than a much larger collection of trajectories with only a binary success label.
