{"slug": "when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours", "title": "When AI helps make the song, what stays yours?", "summary": "A Making a Scene article and podcast published in August by Richard L'Hommedieu warns that a single \"opt in\" button can grant AI companies rights to an artist's finished recording, underlying composition, lyrics, stems, vocal tracks, name and likeness, future releases and unreleased material. French singer-songwriter and producer Vincent Walter Jacob, who uses ChatGPT to organize ideas and Logic for drum parts, told the Taste-Bench podcast he keeps AI away from songwriting but accepts it for mixing, while noting Suno let non-musicians release songs for the first time. The article argues those permissions need not travel together, so artists can license ten named recordings for training while excluding the rest of their catalogue.", "body_md": "Rights & policy\n\n# When AI helps make the song, what stays yours?\n\nA songwriter keeps AI away from the fun parts. An opt-in can reach the recording, voice and future work. Suno wants creation and listening to stay inside the same app.\n\n## AI-assisted\n\nDrafted with AI assistance and edited by Nik McFly.\n\nVincent Walter Jacob gave ChatGPT a list of records he loved, the sound he wanted and the plugins installed on his computer. The chatbot replied with settings. He entered them into his mix, pressed play and liked what he heard.\n\nJacob is a French singer-songwriter and producer. He fronted the Los Angeles rock band [Yard of Blondes](https://music.apple.com/us/album/murderology-ep/605815188) and wrote the lyrics to Johnny Hallyday's posthumously released [“Un Cri.”](https://johnnyaz.lepodcast.fr/johnny-n-degres-529-un-cri)\n\nIn August, he appeared on [*Taste-Bench*](https://www.taste-bench.com/podcast), a podcast about AI and human taste hosted by AI researcher Bruno Marnette and economist Philipp Zahn. They invited Jacob as a musician working outside the AI industry.\n\nChatGPT organises his ideas, explains unfamiliar software and helps him study music theory. Jacob sometimes gives it chord progressions and asks how to arrange an orchestra. Logic generates his drum parts because he is not a drummer.\n\nThe mixing experiment saved time, but it also taught him what the controls did. After entering ChatGPT's suggested settings and adjusting them by ear, he understood tools that had previously confused him.\n\nIn the [episode](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5HvOoBlri6rCw5qb0o76fc), Jacob says he tries to keep AI away from the parts of music-making he loves. Mixing assistance passes that test. Songwriting usually does not.\n\nThen Suno gets closer to the boundary.\n\nJacob describes a producer friend who uploaded a rough trumpet recording and asked Suno to improve the performance. The result was good enough to use. A musician could play an imperfect part, preserve the idea and let the model supply the polish.\n\nFor Jacob, the hours spent wrestling with a performance may be the experience he wanted from the studio. Removing the struggle can remove the eventual satisfaction.\n\nHe does not turn that preference into a rule for everyone else. He knows people who could write lyrics but could not sing or play an instrument. Suno allowed them to release songs for the first time. He also expects children raised with generative tools to develop musical practices that current musicians cannot yet recognise.\n\nInside his studio, Jacob decides what the machine may touch. Once the song enters a contract, someone else helps draw that boundary.\n\n## The checkbox after the song\n\nAlso in August, the independent-music publication [*Making a Scene*](https://www.makingascene.org/) released an article and podcast titled [“AI Licensing Is Becoming a Contract Business: What Indie Artists Must Demand Before They Opt In.”](https://www.makingascene.org/ai-licensing-is-becoming-a-contract-business-what-indie-artists-must-demand-before-they-opt-in/)\n\nWritten by Richard L'Hommedieu, the piece looks at what an artist may be agreeing to when an AI company asks for permission to use their music.\n\nA button marked “opt in” can cover the finished recording, the underlying composition, lyrics, stems, vocal tracks, the artist's name and likeness, future releases and material that has never been made public.\n\nThe uses can be equally broad. A company may want to train a model, generate new music, imitate a voice, sublicense the material to a partner or reuse it in products that have not been built yet.\n\nThose permissions do not have to travel together.\n\nAn artist could license ten named recordings for training while excluding the rest of the catalogue. A singer could permit voice generation for internal demos but prohibit public releases. Fan remixes might be allowed inside one service without receiving permission for commercial distribution elsewhere.\n\nThe article reduces the issue to one useful sentence:\n\n“The real opportunity is being included on terms you understand.”\n\nUnderstanding the terms requires more than knowing what files the company receives. The contract also needs to say how long permission lasts, which other companies may receive the material, how the artist gets paid and what happens to the files, trained models and generated outputs after the deal ends.\n\n*Making a Scene* has its own stake in this argument. The publication also sells [Fan Passport](https://masfanpassport.com/), software for managing licensing policies, revenue and direct fan relationships. Its article supports the ownership model behind that product.\n\nA carefully written license can define what happens to the music. It cannot guarantee where the listener will remain after the song is made.\n\n## Suno wants the listening too\n\nBloomberg reporters Lucas Shaw and Ashley Carman examine that next step in [“The Next Spotify—Or an AI Music Slop Machine?”](https://omny.fm/shows/listen-to-the-story/the-next-spotify-or-an-ai-music-slop-machine), released through Bloomberg's narrated-reporting podcast *Listen to the Story*.\n\nSuno already turns prompts and uploaded audio into produced songs. The company's ambition extends beyond helping someone create a file.\n\nCo-founder and CEO Mikey Shulman [tells Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-08-11/suno-stares-down-universal-and-sony-to-reshape-the-future-of-music):\n\n“I think people want to create to be entertained.”\n\nBloomberg reports that more than 100 million people have used Suno and more than two million pay for it. Suno says more than 80% of its users listen to music they created themselves. The company supplied those figures.\n\nIf the 80% figure is accurate, much of the activity stays inside one product. A user generates a song about a private joke, sends friends a Suno link and returns to the app to hear it again. No distributor or separate streaming service is required.\n\nSuno controls the creation interface, the sharing path, the recommendation system and the listening history around the song.\n\nThe creator may export the audio. The Suno link and the activity attached to it remain on Suno. If the company changes its prices, features or rules, downloading a WAV file does not move those listeners somewhere else.\n\n## What the artist should keep\n\nKeep the prompts, source files, stems, metadata and project versions needed to continue the work outside the original tool.\n\nAsk an AI license to name the recordings, compositions and identity rights it covers. The contract should also name the permitted uses, other companies, duration, payment and exit conditions.\n\nGive listeners an independent place to find the artist, even if it is only a website or mailing list.\n\nIf Suno changes its terms tomorrow, the artist should still have the project files, the right to use the work and a way to tell listeners where the next song will appear.", "url": "https://wpnews.pro/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours", "canonical_source": "https://aimusic.events/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours", "published_at": "2026-08-30 12:00:00+00:00", "updated_at": "2026-09-14 12:37:27.794019+00:00", "lang": "en", "topics": ["ai-policy", "generative-ai", "ai-ethics", "ai-products"], "entities": ["Vincent Walter Jacob", "ChatGPT", "Suno", "Making a Scene", "Richard L'Hommedieu", "Taste-Bench", "Bruno Marnette", "Philipp Zahn"], "alternates": {"html": "https://wpnews.pro/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours", "markdown": "https://wpnews.pro/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours.md", "text": "https://wpnews.pro/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours.txt", "jsonld": "https://wpnews.pro/news/when-ai-helps-make-the-song-what-stays-yours.jsonld"}}