What Is Reasoning A new paper and online discussions have revealed methods to extract hidden reasoning traces from closed-weight AI models, prompting an investigation into how these traces work. Reasoning traces are simply text emitted into a scratchpad before the final answer, controlled by system prompts and special tokens, as demonstrated by GPT-OSS's Harmony response format and DeepSeek's DwarfStar implementation. The findings clarify that reasoning effort is not a sampling property but a learned convention, and that models can be tricked into leaking reasoning when native reasoning is disabled. A few weeks ago a paper was shared https://arxiv.org/html/2608.09867v1 that showed how to extract reasoning traces from closed-weight models. Together with online discussions about tricking models into leaking them, it made me investigate it more out of curiosity. Twitter seems full of half-truths and confusion about how this works, so perhaps this helps some to understand what is happening. Reasoning traces are usually hidden from us. We have lamented this https://earendil.com/posts/session-portability/ , but mostly have to accept it. Open-weight models thankfully reveal them, and from their behavior you can see that their traces can be long and confusing. This is probably a good reason to separate them from what is normally shown to users. At minimum, UIs need to detect them. The industry has done a good job at making reasoning traces sound special and exotic, but they really are just text: the model is trained to emit its thinking into a scratchpad as part of its response, before its final answer. GPT-OSS’s Harmony response format makes this easy to see: <|channel| analysis<|message| I need to work this out ... <|end| <|start| assistant<|channel| final<|message| The answer is ... <|return| The markers are special tokens, but the reasoning between them uses “the same text” as the final answer just that GPT chain-of-thought text sounds really funny . When the model samples the analysis channel token, a parser routes the following text into a separate stream exposed through the Responses API. For closed models, presumably a simple model redacts and summarizes it. How much budget goes to reasoning? Earlier APIs exposed reasoning token budgets, making it seem like a property of the sampling process. In reality, reasoning effort is baked into the system prompt. GPT-OSS puts this into the system prompt: Reasoning: low That’s it. Training produces the resulting behavior, such as emitting the token sequence that switches to the analysis channel. This also explains why changing the effort invalidates the KV cache. I think closed GPT models call reasoning effort “juice,” since you can ask most models how much juice they have. In DwarfStar https://github.com/antirez/ds4 for DeepSeek with max reasoning this is added to the system prompt: Reasoning Effort: Absolute maximum with no shortcuts permitted. You MUST be very thorough in your thinking and comprehensively decompose the problem to resolve the root cause, rigorously stress-testing your logic against all potential paths, edge cases, and adversarial scenarios. The destination of reasoning tokens is therefore a learned convention: the model is trained to keep scratch work out of the final channel. Trick it into thinking it is in that channel and it may leak tokens. We have even seen older models, when thinking is disabled, reason into the bash tool and echo their thoughts to /dev/null . So in some sense the only “special” behavior for some models is not to think. That at times is done by “mechanically” removing the model’s usual ways to think. In DwarfStar https://github.com/antirez/ds4 , disabled thinking uses the prefill