What are the best non-local AI options right now? Users discuss privacy-focused AI alternatives to mainstream models, comparing options like Duck.ai, NanoGPT, MapleAI, OpenRouter, and Ask Brave. Concerns include trust in TEEs, model hallucination, and data retention policies, with Ask Brave and Lumo emerging as recommended choices. They seem to have You say Duck is trust-based? Isn’t NanoGPT even more so? They say they use TEE, but how do you actually verify that? They’re both trust-based. It’s a similar model to a VPN, you’re just shifting trust. Though NanoGPT lets you pay with cryptocurrency so you at least have the ability not to connect your identity to a payment method like a credit card would TEE only applies to certain models on NanoGPT. Not sure if there is a way to verify that on NanoGPT, but with MapleAI you supposedly can https://trymaple.ai/proof https://trymaple.ai/proof I just had a pretty bad experience with my Maple account and deleted it. The model was claiming that it was ChatGPT 4. When I messaged support about it they said this is “common with open source models” which I haven’t experienced at all with open source models. That’s quite common though. You can see the same in a lot of AI systems. AI is famous for hallucinating and this is a prime example. They could give it a system prompt where they define some facts but they probably don’t do that. OpenRouter allows paying with cryptocurrency so it seems to have similar privacy guarantees as NanoGPT. Just thought I’d mention here, maybe someone has but I missed it, Duck.ai actually does have one TEE model, gpt-oss. You can’t use the upload feature with it though, but you can search the web, which is nice. I’m currently liking duck.ai for web searches and then Privatemode for things that I don’t need to search. I use Lumo sometimes with very specific prompts but I still just find it limited compared to these other options. I’m trying to wean off Perplexity but its search is so good that I still use it with an anon email in incognito mode. Don’t see a lot of talk about this generally. I have tried Lumo and all the models available on duck.ai. The gpt-oss-120B and Haiku 4.5 with reasoning are the best IMO. I also like that gpt-oss is also likely not touching OpenAI servers at all, though I don’t know where the model is running. I must say though I am very impressed with Ask Brave. I’ve not seen anyone recommend it. It uses a combination of Llama and Qwen IIRC. It integrates web-search really well and integrates it with Brave’s search indexing. IMO Brave also has the best search engine outside of Google. I have to say Ask Brave seems to be the best privacy-friendly cloud-based option available. It also doesn’t say no so much either like the better models on duck.ai. What does the community think? Claude AI with opt outs in a subscription, Claude AI with an API key, openrouter to GLM 5.2 with no data retention filter applied. OpenAI is worse privacy policy wise and their opt outs are buried. European AI models suck, i have 0 desire to use them personally right now. I’ve tried everything you mentioned. Lumo is currently among the best out there. It’s multimodal, whereas duck.ai falls quite short in that regard. What’s more, I think GLM 5.2 the model behind Lumo 2.0 Max is one of the best models on the market right now. I use Claude Fable 5, Opus 4.6 and 4.8, and Sonnet 4.6 and 5 for work. These models remain the most reliable and give me the fewest headaches. Even so, for personal use, GLM 5.2 more than suffices. On top of that, NanoGPT offers GLM 5.2 TEE, if I recall correctly. Lastly, I used to rely on Brave Leo and Ask Brave. They remain excellent alternatives, as you point out. Private Cloud Compute. Anything else can’t prove that they really followed the privacy policy.