# Visualization of Imitation Learning by smolvla(SO101)

> Source: <https://discuss.huggingface.co/t/visualization-of-imitation-learning-by-smolvla-so101/176534#post_3>
> Published: 2026-10-05 19:15:38+00:00

Since this is in the physical AI / real-world robotics area, I think the [LeRobot](https://huggingface.co/lerobot) Discord is probably the best place to get the most useful follow-up. But here is how I would separate the pieces first, based on what I can check from the public docs, examples, and related issues:

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I think there are three different visualization/debugging questions mixed together here:

| Question | Tool family | What it helps with | 
| “Is my recorded dataset sane?” | `lerobot-dataset-viz` , LeRobot dataset visualizers, Rerun-style episode inspection | Camera streams, robot states, actions, episode structure | 
| “How is training progressing?” | W&B, Trackio, TensorBoard, CSV/JSONL logs | Loss, learning rate, grad norm, eval metrics | 
| “Will the policy actually work on the robot?” | Evaluation rollouts, open-loop evaluation, real robot testing, dataset/action sanity checks | Success rate, action correctness, camera/state/action mismatch | 

 So I would not treat `lerobot-dataset-viz` as a replacement for a learning-curve dashboard. It is more of a dataset/episode inspection tool. For learning curves, W&B is the documented path in current LeRobot examples, and [Trackio](https://huggingface.co/docs/trackio/index) looks like the most relevant Hugging Face-native local/W&B-like alternative, but probably not a confirmed one-flag replacement for `lerobot-train` yet.

For SmolVLA/SO101 specifically, I would also be careful not to over-trust the loss curve. There are related LeRobot issues where the loss converged and/or W&B plots looked fine, but evaluation success was still 0%. That suggests that for VLA/robotics, the dataset schema, camera setup, state/action definition, normalization/statistics, and rollout evaluation can matter as much as the scalar training curve.

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LeRobot has dataset visualization tools for looking at recorded episodes. This is useful for checking things like:

- camera frames
- camera names/views
- robot state streams
- action streams
- episode timing
- whether the recorded behavior looks physically plausible

Relevant docs/pages:

This kind of tool answers questions like:

Did I record the right cameras, states, actions, and episodes?

It does **not** directly answer:

Is my loss decreasing over training steps?

Those are different layers.

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For training curves, the current LeRobot docs show W&B as the normal documented example. In the real-world imitation learning tutorial, `wandb.enable=true` is described as optional and used for visualizing training plots:

So for training metrics, I would think in terms of:

| Option | Local? | Good for | Caveat | 
| W&B | Not local-first by default | Mature experiment tracking, training plots, media, artifacts | Requires W&B setup/login unless using offline mode | 
| W&B offline | Local logging first | Keeping W&B-style logs without immediate cloud sync | Still W&B-oriented; dashboard workflow may not be what you want | 
| Trackio | Yes, local-first | Local scalar curves and lightweight dashboards | Promising, but not necessarily a full W&B replacement for LeRobot | 
| TensorBoard | Yes | Classic local scalar curves | May require adding a writer if not already supported | 
| CSV/JSONL logs | Yes | Simple, robust, reproducible | No rich dashboard unless you build/plot one | 

 

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If you were remembering a Gradio-based Hugging Face alternative to W&B, I think you may be thinking of **Trackio**:

Trackio is very relevant here because it is:

- Hugging Face-native
- local-first
- W&B-like
- built around a Gradio dashboard
- designed to log experiment metrics
- able to sync/share through Hugging Face Spaces

The Trackio migration docs say that migrating from W&B is usually simple because Trackio uses W&B-like API syntax. In simple scripts, the idea can be as small as:

``` python
import trackio as wandb

wandb.init(project="my-project", name="my-run")
wandb.log({"train/loss": 0.123, "train/lr": 1e-4}, step=100)
wandb.finish()
```

That said, I would be careful with wording here.

I would say:

Trackio looks like the closest Hugging Face-native local/W&B-like option for scalar training curves.

I would **not** say:

Trackio is a guaranteed drop-in replacement for LeRobot’s current `--wandb.enable=true` path.

Why not? Because LeRobot appears to have its own W&B-specific logger wrapper rather than only calling plain `wandb.log()` everywhere. So Trackio may work well with a small custom logger/wrapper, but I would not assume that `lerobot-train` already exposes something like:

```
lerobot-train \
  --trackio.enable=true
```

unless that has been added in the specific LeRobot version you are using.

A safer expectation is:

| LeRobot logging feature | Trackio likelihood | Notes | 
| Scalar metrics: loss, lr, grad norm | High | This is the easiest case | 
| Eval metrics | High | If logged as scalars | 
| Tables/images | Likely | Trackio has W&B-like media APIs, but exact behavior should be checked | 
| Videos | Maybe | Needs checking for the exact current API and dashboard behavior | 
| Checkpoint/artifact tracking | Be careful | W&B Artifacts and Trackio storage are not necessarily equivalent | 
| Resume/run-id behavior | Be careful | W&B-specific run resume logic may not map 1:1 | 
| Full W&B feature parity | No | Trackio is lightweight, not a full W&B clone | 

 So my practical recommendation would be:

1. Use the standard documented W&B path first if you are okay with W&B.
2. If you want local-first scalar curves, investigate Trackio.
3. If using `lerobot-train` , assume Trackio may need a small logger wrapper or code patch.
4. If you only need a quick local curve, parse stdout/logs or write CSV/JSONL first.

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This is the most important robotics-specific point.

In ordinary ML, a learning curve can often tell you a lot. In real-world robotics and VLA training, it is only one signal.

There are related LeRobot issues where training loss or W&B plots looked good, but evaluation did not work:

The main lesson I would take from those is:

A clean loss curve does not guarantee a working rollout.

For SmolVLA/SO101, I would inspect at least these layers:

| Layer | What to check | Why it matters | 
| Camera setup | Number of cameras, camera names, view order, resolution | VLA policies are sensitive to visual input schema | 
| State schema | Shape, order, meaning of `observation.state` | A converged loss can still learn the wrong mapping if state semantics differ | 
| Action schema | Shape, order, joint vs end-effector meaning, gripper representation | Action mismatch can make rollout fail even if training looks fine | 
| Dataset metadata | `meta/info.json` , feature names, fps, codebase version | Confirms what the dataset actually contains | 
| Dataset statistics | `meta/stats.json` , normalization values | Wrong normalization can break policy behavior | 
| Episode visualization | Camera/state/action streams | Helps detect recording/config mistakes | 
| Evaluation | Open-loop eval, sim eval if available, real rollout | The final check is behavior, not just loss | 
| Versioning | LeRobot version, model checkpoint, dataset format version | LeRobot/SmolVLA are moving quickly | 

 The [SmolVLA docs](https://huggingface.co/docs/lerobot/smolvla) describe SmolVLA as taking multiple camera views, the current sensorimotor state, and a natural language instruction, then generating an action chunk. That means the model is not just learning from a text prompt or a single tensor. The camera/state/action contract matters.

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If I wanted the simplest local path before going deeper, I would try this order.

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Use the LeRobot dataset visualization path first.

Things to look for:

- Are all expected camera views present?
- Do the camera names match what the policy/config expects?
- Are the wrist/front/top/side views in the expected places?
- Does the robot state change smoothly?
- Do actions look non-zero and physically meaningful?
- Are gripper actions represented correctly?
- Is fps consistent with what the training config expects?
- Are there broken/missing videos or episodes?

Relevant links:

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Open the dataset metadata files if available.

For LeRobotDataset v3, I would look at:

```
meta/info.json
meta/stats.json
meta/tasks.jsonl
meta/episodes.jsonl
```

In particular:

```
observation.state
action
observation.images.<camera_name>
fps
features
shape
dtype
codebase_version
```

This is boring but important. If the dataset schema and policy expectation disagree, the loss curve may not tell you the real problem.

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If you can use W&B, the official path is probably the least surprising first test:

```
lerobot-train \
  --policy.path=lerobot/smolvla_base \
  --dataset.repo_id=<your-dataset-repo-id> \
  --batch_size=<batch-size> \
  --steps=<num-steps> \
  --wandb.enable=true
```

The exact command should follow the current [LeRobot imitation learning docs](https://huggingface.co/docs/lerobot/il_robots) and [SmolVLA docs](https://huggingface.co/docs/lerobot/smolvla), because the CLI/config names can change across LeRobot versions.

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For a custom training script, Trackio may be very simple:

``` python
import trackio as wandb

wandb.init(
    project="smolvla-so101",
    name="local-test",
    config={
        "policy": "smolvla_base",
        "robot": "so101",
    },
)

wandb.log(
    {
        "train/loss": 0.123,
        "train/lr": 1e-4,
        "train/grad_norm": 0.5,
    },
    step=100,
)

wandb.finish()
```

For `lerobot-train`, I would expect this to require a small logger integration unless LeRobot has added official Trackio support in your version.

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A very boring but reliable fallback is:

```
{"step": 100, "train/loss": 0.123, "train/lr": 0.0001, "train/grad_norm": 0.5}
{"step": 200, "train/loss": 0.098, "train/lr": 0.0001, "train/grad_norm": 0.47}
```

Then plot it locally with Python.

This is not fancy, but it avoids account setup, dashboard assumptions, and integration drift.

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For SO101/SmolVLA, I would bring a compact but complete report to the LeRobot Discord. That will probably get better answers than only asking “how do I visualize the curve?”

Useful information to include:

| Category | Include | 
| LeRobot version | `pip show lerobot` , git commit, or install method | 
| Command | Exact `lerobot-train` command | 
| Policy | `lerobot/smolvla_base` or other checkpoint | 
| Robot | SO101 / SO100 / other, follower/leader setup | 
| Dataset | Hub repo id or local path | 
| Dataset format | LeRobotDataset version if known | 
| Cameras | Number, names, views, order | 
| State/action | Shapes from metadata | 
| Metadata | Relevant parts of `meta/info.json` | 
| Stats | Relevant parts of `meta/stats.json` | 
| Training curves | loss, lr, grad_norm, eval metrics if any | 
| Visualization | screenshots or notes from `lerobot-dataset-viz` | 
| Evaluation | open-loop eval, real rollout behavior, success/failure examples | 
| Requirement | whether you need fully local/offline visualization | 

 A good short Discord/forum report might look like:

```
I am fine-tuning SmolVLA on SO101 with LeRobot.

Goal:
- I want to visualize training curves locally if possible.
- I also want to confirm whether my dataset/camera/action setup is correct.

Setup:
- LeRobot version: <version-or-commit>
- Install method: <pip/source/docker/etc>
- Policy: <policy-path>
- Dataset: <dataset-repo-or-local-path>
- Robot: SO101
- Cameras: <camera-names-and-count>
- Training command: <exact-command>

What I checked:
- lerobot-dataset-viz: <works/does-not-work>
- meta/info.json: <relevant-shapes>
- meta/stats.json: <normalization-stats>
- W&B/Trackio/TensorBoard/logs: <what-you-tried>

Observed behavior:
- Training loss: <summary>
- Eval/rollout: <summary>
- Failure mode: <what-the-robot-does>
```

That gives the LeRobot community enough context to answer the robotics-specific part.

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If your immediate goal is just “I want to see the learning curve locally,” I would rank the options like this:

| Rank | Option | Why | 
| 1 | Parse local logs / CSV / JSONL | Most robust, fully local, no integration risk | 
| 2 | Trackio | Best HF-native local/W&B-like dashboard candidate | 
| 3 | W&B offline | Good if you already want W&B-style tracking | 
| 4 | TensorBoard | Solid generic local ML tool | 
| 5 | Full W&B online | Easiest if you accept W&B account/cloud workflow | 

 But for SmolVLA/SO101 specifically, I would not stop at the learning curve. I would also inspect:

- dataset episodes
- camera names/order/count
- `meta/info.json`
- `meta/stats.json`
- state/action shapes
- normalization
- open-loop evaluation
- real rollout behavior

In other words:

Trackio may help you see the curve, but `lerobot-dataset-viz` and dataset metadata may help you understand whether the curve is meaningful.

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