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Show HN: Echo – Fable-level results at 1/3 the cost using open-weight models

A developer has built Echo, a system that uses open-weight models including GLM-5.2 and Kimi K2.7 to achieve results comparable to Fable at roughly one third the inference cost. Echo dynamically allocates computation and combines multiple models per request, outperforming the best individual model in its pool on the developer's evaluation mix. The system is available via a chat interface and an OpenAI-compatible API, with the developer currently investigating failure cases and testing on coding and agentic tasks.

read2 min views1 publishedJul 23, 2026

| |||||||||||| 10 points by | I’ve been building Echo ( It started with a simple experiment. I took a group of models, including GLM-5.2, Kimi K2.7 and others, and ran them on the same evaluations. Then I measured what would happen if, for each problem, you somehow knew in advance which models would be useful and how their outputs should be combined. That hypothetical system performed substantially better than any individual model in the pool. Of course, it is not something you can actually deploy because it relies on knowing which decisions were good after seeing the result. Echo is my attempt to recover some of that advantage without having that information in advance. For each request, Echo decides how much computation to allocate, which models should participate, and how their work should be combined. Some prompts may only need a relatively small amount of inference, while others benefit from multiple models working on different parts of the problem. One thing that surprised me while building it was how complementary the models are. A model that is clearly weaker overall can still be extremely useful on particular problems or as part of a combination. On my first evaluation mix, Echo consistently performed better than the best individual model in its pool. It also reached roughly the same aggregate result as Fable, which I used as one of the stronger comparison systems, at around one third of the inference cost. There are still some cases where Echo makes the wrong allocation or combination decision. I’m currently spending a lot of time understanding those failures, as well as testing whether the same approach holds up on coding and agentic tasks where measuring the quality of each decision becomes much harder. I built a chat interface (echo.tracerml.ai) and an OpenAI-compatible API ( Here is a short/high level video on how it works: I wrote up the evaluation methodology, individual model results, costs and current limitations here: I would love for you to try it! Especially if you hit any weird failure cases or places where the allocation looks unintuitive. | ||||||||||| Applications are open till July 27. |

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