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Mac Thunderbolt4 real Latency numbers

A Level1Techs forum user posting as boatman reported that USB RDMA on Macs is "just good software" and not real RDMA hardware offload, after being unable to obtain ib_read_lat, ib_write_lat or ib_send_lat latency numbers on a two-node Mac Thunderbolt setup. The user measured 7.8uS over TCP on Strix Halo with busy polling enabled via net.core.busy_poll=100 and net.core.busy_read=100, and set thresholds of greater than 5uS for software RDMA, under 2uS for genuine hardware RDMA.

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Mac Thunderbolt4 real Latency numbers
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Hello All,

Not posted in a long time. but I cant find answers anywhere else.

I have been following the AI clustering topics about USB4.

I need someone to help get me real latency numbers for Mac Thunderbolt RDMA.

Can someone run ib_read_lat, ib_write_lat and ib_send_lat or some equivalent on a 2 node setup.

I need to know if it is real RDMA or just really good software RDMA. My understanding right now is that there is no way that thunderbolt can bypass the CPU/kernel and go to the GPU vRAM with a zero-copy. There is a limit to how low they can get without adding a RDMA chip to the USB port, which apple might do.

If results are >5 than it is just software RDMA.

If results are lower than they must have RDMA hardware.

If it is <2uS then we are really cooking.

Notes:

I have tested both thunderbolt-ibverbs and OdinLink-Five. and they are good but most of the improvements they get in latency is from enabling busy polling. I am running it with Strix Halo and getting 7.8uS over TCP. I want to know if Apple is just doing the same trick.

`sudo sysctl -w net.core.busy_poll=100`

`sudo sysctl -w net.core.busy_read=100`

I look forward to getting real numbers for latency.

boatman 2

Update: I was not able to get numbers but I can confirm that the USB RDMA on Macs is just good software. not real RDMA hardware offload.

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