# Lstm in c++/training tips > Source: > Published: 2026-07-10 19:33:17+00:00 i think there’s an issue with my implementation since my experience is disparate with others. unfortunately i hid my second post by using an out of fashion expression. it might read better for people with wider monitors than i. (or it’s in rnn-lstm.h at git hub. com/atomictraveller/scary-mess ) must be negative log likelihood as training often initialises around 4.5. “my lstm” can send error into the 20s and up which i don’t think i’ve seen before with any net. i have toxostomas that tweet when i think about math or sleep heheh. which explains why [j][i] is swapped i think this is as far as i go with ML programming, i enjoy generation, my hardware in a number of senses is probably better scaled for procedural development.