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From Slop to Determinism – Shifting the Narrative Space

A Hacker News user argues that the current AI hype cycle is driven by narrative rather than substance, and suggests shifting the discourse toward determinism and traditional programming languages like C, Java, and Python as a counter to the 'slop' narrative.

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What I realized today while sipping my morning cup of chai is that a large part of the present AI hype cycle is just about the 'narrative of AI'. The LLM technology itself is just a digital tool like many others that came before it but all this chatter about 'AI is the future', 'learn it or perish', 'machines will replace humans soon', etc. keeps it in the news and creates a burger out of nothing. But folks lose their energy and sleep over this which becomes a problem. And many a benign enterprises are falsely led to believe that this technology can do wonders, it's a great disservice being done by those selling these bridges.

For folks like us who are fed up of this slop narrative - instead of fighting it, it's better to try and shift the narrative towards determinism. For centuries and millennia, we have been trained to avoid and even fear fatalism (a negative form or aspect of determinism), and look towards future with hopes for betterment and prosperity. There is nothing wrong with having hope but for the first time in known history, the 'future will be glorious' theme isn't looking so bright, at least to a large number of folks connected to grassroots. In order to push back against this narrative, we need to turn determinism into a force of good, or at least a force preferable to the alternative. Even in the LLM space, most of the utilitarian things are happening in the low-end, open source and local LLMs niche which are more deterministic in approach. What can we do to bring back people's interest in regular deterministic programming with C, Java and Python?

Comments URL: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742473](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48742473)

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