{"slug": "ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model", "title": "Ask HN: Did Google kill its enterprise workhorse model?", "summary": "A Hacker News poster warned that Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro and Flash models are being sunset in October before any Pro-class model reaches general availability, with Google directing users to migrate to Gemini 3.x Flash. The poster said Gemini 3.x Flash beats the older Pro models on benchmarked tasks but does not match Pro-class performance on reasoning-heavy work such as complex reasoning over very large documents, and cited Gemini's niche in document comprehension where thousand-page input documents take only 300k tokens. The post asks whether users should abandon Google and engineer around competitors' limits, calling the move an \"unnecessary own goal by team Google.", "body_md": "Is anyone else in a panic over the Gemini 2.5 model generation (Pro, Flash) being sunset in October before there's even any Pro class model in general availability (with geo restrictions etc.)? Google wants everyone to migrate to 3.x Flash, which beats the older Pro models on the benchmarked tasks, but isn't the same thing as the Pro class on reasoning-heavy tasks like complex reasoning on very large documents (my big use case).\n\nThe Gemini family had a distinct niche in document comprehension, with thousand page input documents taking only 300k tokens. Nothing quite like that in OpenAI or Anthropic world, even at more than 10x the token adjusted price. Should we just give up on Google at this point and engineer around the competitors' limits and eat the costs? Totally unnecessary own goal by team Google.\n\nComments URL: [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49668196](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49668196)\n\nPoints: 1\n\n# Comments: 0", "url": "https://wpnews.pro/news/ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model", "canonical_source": "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49668196", "published_at": "2026-09-12 02:41:49+00:00", "updated_at": "2026-09-12 02:57:10.522681+00:00", "lang": "en", "topics": ["large-language-models", "ai-products", "artificial-intelligence"], "entities": ["Google", "Gemini 2.5 Pro", "Gemini 2.5 Flash", "Gemini 3.x Flash", "OpenAI", "Anthropic", "Hacker News"], "alternates": {"html": "https://wpnews.pro/news/ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model", "markdown": "https://wpnews.pro/news/ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model.md", "text": "https://wpnews.pro/news/ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model.txt", "jsonld": "https://wpnews.pro/news/ask-hn-did-google-kill-its-enterprise-workhorse-model.jsonld"}}