# Apple’s plot to crush OpenAI

> Source: <https://www.theverge.com/podcast/967244/apple-openai-lawsuit-vergecast>
> Published: 2026-07-17 17:41:32+00:00

[Apple is suing OpenAI](/tech/964350/apple-openai-lawsuit-trade-secrets). The complaint is readable and intense, as these things often are, though many experts seem to think many of the allegations are just [the ways things are done](https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-lawsuit-openai-trade-secrets-what-smart-people-are-saying-2026-7). So what does Apple really want here, and why is it picking such a public fight with OpenAI?

# Apple’s plot to crush OpenAI

Also on The Vergecast: Siri AI is here, OnePlus is leaving, and the cracking face emoji is coming.

Also on The Vergecast: Siri AI is here, OnePlus is leaving, and the cracking face emoji is coming.

On [this episode of The Vergecast](https://pod.link/vergecast), Nilay and David go through the lawsuit, and look at Apple’s history of splashy litigation to determine whether Apple is worried about a possible competitor or simply looking to capitalize on

[a weak moment for OpenAI](/ai-artificial-intelligence/965294/openai-apple-trade-secrets-lawsuit-sam-altman-ipo). All this is happening as Apple

[ships the public betas](/tech/964307/apple-public-betas-ios-27-siri-ai)of its new software, headlined by

[the new Siri AI](/tech/964714/siri-ai-public-beta-preview-ios-27-hands-on), and we have thoughts about what it all means — and whether the new Siri is actually any good.

After all that, the hosts turn to the week’s gadget news, which includes leaks about [OpenAI gadgets](/ai-artificial-intelligence/965670/openai-chatgpt-ai-smart-speaker-hardware-device) and [Pixel phones](/tech/964972/google-pixel-11-colors-rumor), and [OnePlus bailing on the US and Europe](/tech/966404/oneplus-oppo-us-europe-withdrawal-realme). The Samsung-Apple duopoly continues to rule in the US, and it looks [increasingly hard for anyone to challenge](/tech/966274/oneplus-never-had-a-chance-in-the-us). Unless you just go and buy T-Mobile.

Finally, in the lightning round, we catch up on [Brendan Carr](/policy/966283/fcc-broadcast-ownership-cap-brendan-carr), the latest [chaos in your X feed](/tech/965360/x-algorithm-tweak-mutuals-strangers-community), the [cracking face emoji](/news/965537/the-new-cracking-face-emoji-might-be-an-all-timer), the [foothills of the singularity](/tech/965270/google-deepmind-demis-hassabis-global-ai-watchdog), and more.

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